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[turps]

Sometimes I get things in my in box that make me think the sender is on crack. Mouse, did you get the same or was it just me?

However, I got some wonderful things in my snail mail today so that evens it up. patchworkdragon thank you so much for the Valentine's card, I loved it a lot especially as it's been a long time since I got one from anyone but James. Also, canalbaby thank you for the joint Christmas birthday card. It was a lovely surprise and cheered me up so much :) Last but not least. jaciesplace My goodness! I opened the card, saw it was a birthday card so shoved it back in the envelope but not before I saw inside and my god! Just...it's damn well perfect and believe me all day today I've been breaking up into laughter because, man. I love it so much! I'll thank you officially later but for now know you just about made my day, in fact you all did.

It's been a pretty good day in all, a nice sleep in, stress free shopping and a visit to the doctors with good news, and now I get to drink cappuccinos and code and upload again, be still my joyful heart ;)

But first, I want to say something about the baby kerfuffle that would, which is probably unwise especially as my ass is usually planted on that comfy fence. With one thing and another I haven't read the flist in a day or so and one of the first posts I saw was about a kerfuffle. Totally out of the loop I read on and found out that it was about the comm sparklydarkboys. I'm a member of that comm, in fact I posted some trickc there today in an effort to break past the damn writers block I have about the Honey challenge. The owners of the comm are also good friends of mine but the people who mentioned the comm have always been okay to me and honestly looking around it seems to me this isn't a kerfuffle at all but a case of hurt feelings, which don't get me wrong is horrible but not worth kerfuffling about you know? I hate that feelings have been hurt but I guess what it comes down to is everyone can't like everything and I like the comm and I'm okay about being classed in with the 'shitty company' because I like those people a lot.

Moving on because I sit on a fence for a reason, ie I'm a wimp who hates I may annoy people, which yeah is probably too late I know ;) I hope all you commenters who teased me with Chris rimming are going to follow through! I expect Chris rimming fics and soon, it's not fair teasing me like that. Do you know I had a dream about rimming and that's just so right wrong! So yes, I'll just wait here as you write me some rimming fic *g*

And now I go before castalie sends out a search party. I love coding, really I do.

Comments

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

Heh. Good to know.

(Any chance you might be coming down soon? I'd really like to meet up.)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Totally, if I was ever classed with any shitty people I'd hope it was you guys *g*

No plans at the moment but I'll totally make them soon. We often go to the railway museum so next time we do I'll make plans to see you for sure because I'd love to see you.

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

Ha! The railway museum. I haven't even been there myself. :) Silly, isn't it? I've been here for months and still haven't properly explored the city, or done the tourist thing.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I've lived in Sunderland all my life and I still haven't done some of the tourist things. You just get complacent if you live next to them I guess.

But yes, it's a date next time I'm down. We'll talk sdb and freak out the 'normal' people ;)

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

Will do. Yay! Plus the poundland here sells Justin stickers. I have been controlling myself.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Man, last time I was in the Poundland here I bought a Justin sticker book. I was so proud *g*

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

OK, that's it. Am buying one for myself the next time I'm there. As if the Justin poster in my room wasn't enough. I think my cleaning lady thinks I'm mad. And I've got a new Backstreet poster coming soon from eBay, too. *g*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

You really need to forget all shame and get anything sparkly you see. It makes you happy, man. I have hit clips from Nsync and they're the cheesiest thing ever but I love them.

Did you ever see pictures of my desk of shamelessness? So much sparkle in one area *g*

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

Nope, don't think so. Link me?

Ahahaha. I don't have room for swag here. They're all back home. :(

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I could only find an old pic that was uploaded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/turps332/lakes039.jpg

Since then I've added 5 more marionettes, the shelf is covered in photo post cards of Chris and various other swag. The posters are all in my spare room *g*

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

God, need the marionettes and/or bobbleheads, but no room! And I have enough stuff here already. I don't know how to bring it home with me. And at home I have even less space. *headdesk*

[hegemony.livejournal.com]

Hmm.

I have friends on both sides of the fence, too, although i'd have to say, one side of the fence is getting attacked over this case of hurt feelings, and that's certianly not the wisest thing to do if you're pulling off a case of hurt feelings defense. Of course, your journal, your right to say anything.

I don't know. I feel as though I should be riding the fence as well, but it certianlly isn't working right in my brain. But hey, at least the company is of the same quality I am.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I thought a long time before mentioning anything because I do have friends on both sides of this, though obviously closer friends on one side.

I hate that anyone is being attacked at all and it sucks that it's come to this over something I think is cool. I especially hate that people have been hurt because that's always wrong, however it happens.

I don't know, I probably should keep my mouth shut but as I didn't, I guess I'll just stick to saying the same as I did to JM. If I have to be classed with shitty people at least it's shitty people that I like a lot.

[trumpeterofdoom.livejournal.com]

Well personally, I do try to see the other side, and hey, save a seat on the fence for me, because somehow that's where I end up too.

[hegemony.livejournal.com]

personally, I'm all fine and good with chalking this up to a case of some people not liking vampires.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

The best reason yet *g*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

It's always good to try and do that, though I know it's hard, especially when good friends are involved because the impulse is always to jump to their defense.

And hey, like I told Den, pull up a seat on this fence. It's comfy up here and you can watch lots of interesting things ;)

[raynedanser.livejournal.com]

In my case, I only know one side of the kerfluffle, so I'm definitely fencing it. In the meantime, I'm in the community, only reading for the time being (and leaving feedback). Mayhap someday I'll even post something of my own, but don't count on it. :-D

And you HAD to bring up the Chris rimming again, didn't you? You just HAD to go there. *sigh*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Hey it's comfy on that fence. I sit there so often there's a ridge the same shape as my ass on it.

Ass...rimming...mmmmmmm

I'd love to see some of your work btw.

[raynedanser.livejournal.com]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My work? I haven't done much in ages. All het, 1 chapter in a RR of slash (Firefly - but of course I can't find the link where its archived right now *headdesk*).

Oh you wicked thing! You HAD to get that R word in again, didn't you? :-D

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Oh you wicked thing! You HAD to get that R word in again, didn't you? :-D

I can't help it. I think I'm obsessed or something ;)

[raynedanser.livejournal.com]

But it's a good obsession to have! Well, that and the ol' FKA! :-D (2 great things that taste great together... oy I'm bad)

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Sometimes I get things in my in box that make me think the sender is on crack. Mouse, did you get the same or was it just me?

Since I don't think I know what you're talking about, I'm afraid the answer is yes it might be just you. But now, you need to share, sis! Here of off-LJ if it's delicate matter *g*

Good luck with the coding, btw *g* And I'm halfway through Challenge #75, yay!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I'll tell you in a mail then because it sort of involves us both.

Coding is coming along nicely, especially as I started so late. But man, challenge #75! That's just, whoa!

Way to go us again!!! We rock!

[castalie.livejournal.com]

You definitely intrigue me now *g*

I'll second the Challenge #75 Whoa, because pfew! lol

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Well it involves us in a ST sense, nothing personal because that would be intriguing *g*

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Still, don't make me wait pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase? *pleads*

Thanks *kisses*

[nonchop.livejournal.com]

I did send an apology to one person whom I thought I owed one to, and I do feel bad about hurting her feelings. I hope she'll take it as the honest apology it was offered as. But the rest of it? It's being built up to a level of almost-hysteria, especially by people who don't know me, don't know anything about me, have never talked to me, aren't friends with my friends, and as far as I can tell, never even read the original thread, because if they did, they'd know that the "shitty company" comment wasn't even mine.

The sad truth is you are right, people aren't all going to like everything. Hell, most of these people are in a fandom that gets mocked all the *time* by other fandoms (for being both real and sparkly). A few people joking about the community rules, isn't the cause for heartbreak and devastation. More power to the mods for starting the community they wanted, and more power to the people who happily joined. I truly hope that it will grow and thrive, and in fact, I wished that from the beginning. But I'm not going to spend my life walking around in cotton-wool just in case I *might* say something that *might* offend somebody (or multiple somebodies in this case). If I'd attacked from inside the community, or tried to start a revolt against the community, or spammed livejournal with endless announcements about the badness of the community, then yes, I would certainly understand why people were upset. But I did none of those things, and I never planned to do any of those things.

Why am I posting this in your journal? Mainly because you are the first person I've seen to post maturely and calmly about the whole situation, and I respect your opinions. I have no good way to end this except to say that my comments were never personal in nature and were never intended to be personal in nature. The reaction seems to have been taken way, way overboard, when there was nothing very much there to begin with.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Personally I think this has blown out of proportion now. Seeing some posts I keep thinking I must be missing something because what I saw isn't as bad as what's being made out.

I'm really sorry the situation is getting so many people riled up because I agree, if they read the original thread they'd see the comments really weren't that bad. Sure it hurts when something you love is mocked, but you never said the comm was about badfic.

The problem is when people see their friends upset they rally around them, and that's great, but in this case I think this defense is getting out of hand as the situation is made to seem worse with each telling, especially for you who've been made out to be the bad guy. I'm sorry for that, the same as I'm sorry for Raven and Josh who are dealing with this too. You've never been anything but pleasant to me and you coming here and doing what you've done makes me respect your more.

People really don't like everything, I don't expect them too. I'm under no illusions people like everything I write and I'd hope everyone else knows that too about their own work. It's the same with this comm, people will dislike it the same way some people will love it, it's just the way things work.

You really shouldn't be expected to walk around in cotton wool, everyone has the right to an opinion and the only sad thing here is it's led to hurt feelings, because I really believe you didn't intend that. What I don't understand is how it went from a reasonable discussion between Josh and a few people on Halo's journal to what it is now.

I have to thank you again for coming here and saying what you have. I hesitated a long time before saying anything as like I said I knew everyone involved, obviously knowing Josh and Raven better than you, but what I'd known of you I've always liked.

For everyone involved I hope this simmers down soon, there's no point stressing over this any longer.

[nonchop.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm seriously amazed at how much people have decided to blow this up. It's really nice that Raven and Josh have such devoted friends, but honestly, this kind of hysteria isn't making things much better for them at all. It was a few comments, and while they weren't nice, they also weren't Satanic. Not to mention they were from *total strangers*. And you know, if one of them had sent me a private email? I totally would've responded and made it clear that of course I never intended to hurt anybody. I'm not really sure why it became such a huge public deal (especially, I might add, with people who aren't even a *part* of the community, and are hating me solely on word-of-mouth.

Raven and Josh wanted a community where no mocking happens at all, because they are not fans of the mockery, and this whole thing is actually a perfect example of why it's good to have a community where you can feel safe. It's their community and they can make the rules any way they want, but they (and others) can't really expect the entire world to play by those rules.

It's just. There's pretty much no point in getting involved in the whole thing (which is why you're the only person I've responded to), because there really isn't anything to get involved *in*. People have just become more and more incensed as the day went on (especially against me), and it's extremely clear that some of them have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. It's like the world's biggest game of telephone (you know telephone?), and with each telling, things get worse and worse.

I'm really glad that you did say something, because you did an excellent job of laying it all out on the line; why some people's actions were wrong, and why some people's reactions were way over-the-top. I didn't behave in the world's most mature way, but I really respect you for pointing out that other people haven't reacted very maturely as well.

And yeah, I'm going to continue to stay out of the whole thing, because there's nothing I can say or do to change how people are acting right now, and honestly, there's not really anything I *want* to say or do, except to advise people to shove their chairs away from their computers and go outside into the world for a bit to clear out their heads so that they can remember that 99% of what happens online is just a big, freaking joke.

Also, why on earth are you still up? It's the wee hours of the morning over there!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I'm just glad that it's getting sorted, and really at this point when both you and Raven have spoken and said things are fine that should be the end of it. Sadly fandom can never be that easy even when people should just butt out and let things be, because they never do.

I love fandom and I try to always keep it my happy place, but sometimes it's insane. Two wrongs don't make a right and though I understand the compulsion to run to defend friends it doesn't do any good if all you do is yell without thinking what you're yelling about.

Fandom man, it really does like playing Chinese whispers ( telephone ) and I doubt that'll ever change.

I've said it before but I do respect how you've reacted to this and I'm really glad it's blowing over.

LOL. I went to bed just before this came, I'm so nosy I was desperately trying to catch up on the flist but gave in when 3am loomed.

[jaciesplace.livejournal.com]

but for now know you just about made my day, in fact you all did.

Yea! I made Terri's day!

*does happy dance*

You know, I was out shopping for cards months ago and when I saw that card I immediately thought of you for some reason, so I knew I had to send it to you *grin*. I'm glad it made you smile! ;)

I guess I missed out on whatever is going around about sparklydarkboys, but you posted a story there? A TrickC story?

*scampers off to read*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

You really did! It's back in the envelope now but I keep looking at it and smiling, both for the actual card which is the best thing ever! And the fact you actually sent it you know. You're such a sweetheart.

*hugs you tight*

It's probably just as well you missed it, I hope things have been smoothed over by now.

[jaciesplace.livejournal.com]

Hee! I was going to write your unfinished badficlet in there, but I was afraid I'd get it half written out and the rest wouldn't fit and really, what's the point of halfabadficlet? LOL

*hugs you and twirls you around twice (once for Chris & once for JC)*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

LOL. The halfabadficlet would have finished me off in terms of pure joy *g*

*twirls with you*

A Felow Rimming Obsessor You Say

[sjrules.livejournal.com]

i thought I was the only one! So this fics you speak of is it Chris rimming or being rimmed either way i am here and would appreciate a link to any and all stories that are submitted.

i love to read rimming stories and there are simply not enough of them.

Oh and hello I found you through friends of friends and couldn't resist commenting about my favorite subject.

MMMMRimmingMMMMM!

Re: A Felow Rimming Obsessor You Say

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I'm so sorry it took so long to reply! The last day has been so busy!

I was so thrilled with your comment because rimming is such a wonderful thing *happy sigh* Especially if Chris is on the receiving end.

If any rimming fics do appear, and I hope they do as I've been teased enough, I'll be sure to send them your way. Until then, Kim mickeym wrote me a gorgeous rimming scene in comments here (http://www.livejournal.com/users/turps33/370682.html?replyto=4423162). It's really worth reading.

Thank you...

[sjrules.livejournal.com]

for sharing! That was realy good! Can't wait for more!

Oh and happy Birthday! (I found out through my friendslist!)

Re: Thank you...

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Wasn't it just!

Thank you for the birthday wishes too, and you icon? Is perfect!

[canalbaby.livejournal.com]

Glad the CD arrived safely! Have a good birthday!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Thank you again!

[http://users.livejournal.com/_bettina_/]

I missed it again. I always miss the fun stuff the kerfuffles. The only thing that's really bad about that fact is that all those cryptic comments turn up on my friendslist and I have absolutely no clue what's going on and no one explains it. I hate that. Um... sorry.

So, what's new with you? ;-)

*smooch*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I hate the cryptic comments too, which is why I tried to be uncryptic, guess it didn't work *g*

So, what's new with you? ;-)

LOL. Not much, just longing for my comfy fence and trying desperately to catch up on the flist ;)

*smooches with you*

[http://users.livejournal.com/_bettina_/]

Well, since I didn't see anything kerfuffly at the community it was still very cryptic for me ;-). I guess it's either friendslocked or deleted.

Fences are rarely very comfy, at least for me. Good luck in catching up with the friendslist.

[xoverau.livejournal.com]

You know, was going to say something of content, but then I noticed that this post title was abbreviated as "Sometimes I get things in my box that..." at the top, and that amused me. So many ways to finish that sentence.

Look, shiny!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

That happens to me all the time. You know so many of my words of wisdom are lost because of the shiny distractions ;)