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[turps]

Yesterday was weird. I slept in until 10, got up and got online, and was hit by the whole Mikey situation.

I've pretty much talked myself out in other places so will stick to. Have I lost some respect for him? Yes. Have I lost all respect? No, I'm not defending him but there's still a lot of stuff he's done that I respect and that hasn't changed. Do I think more has gone on that we know? Yes. Will I stop reading or writing Mikey fic? Not at all.

To be honest it's the last that makes me sad. I lost people I really liked when Bob left the band, people who defriended and never commented again, and I really don't want that to happen again. I love bandom, Mikey is still my favourite and I want to write so many stories still, but fear no one will read them. I was telling Sperrywink yesterday that I'd end up telling my stories to the cats. Which is an exaggeration I know, I have friends who will listen to my rambles always, but the kinds of not fic that happen just because, the kinds where you just go, I want a story where Mikey is in a car crash and goes home to recover an gets hugs. Who will listen to those now? Because I mean, the cats will listen but the lazy lumps never say anything in reply. Seriously, cats as feedbackers are the worst.

It's a mess for sure, but we as fans only see so much, and that's why I'm going nowhere.

Changing the subject. I need help from anyone that uses Thunderbird.

I've noticed that my twitter DMs haven't been reaching my in-box for a while, but figured it was just twitter acting up. Then noticed the notification for one popping up from Thunderbird, which meant they had been reaching Thunderbird but not landing in my in box for some reason. After a search I found a load of DMs in a filter folder, along with some actual emails -- one's I'd have actually liked to know I'd received. The problem is, the filter folder is greyed and I can't find out how to change things.

Has anyone had anything similar happen?

Comments

[sperrywink]

{{{hugs}}}

Unless you are feeding them at that exact moment, cats are crap at feedback. *g*

It is a sad situation.

[turps]

I don't want people to leave me!

Cats are the worst at feedback, yes.

I may have to start leaving not-fics on the end of your emails *g*

[venetia_sassy]

we as fans only see so much, and that's why I'm going nowhere

Exactly. I'm not going anywhere and I'll still read your Mikey fic!

[turps]

That's good to know ♥

[xojemmaxo]

I'll always read your fic. :)

[turps]

That's good to know ♥

[pocus]

it's a weird situation. i haven't really been in bandom for a while now, which is probably for the best since i can't imagine how i would have reacted if i'd still been as fannish about them as i was back in 2007. this hurt a lot less than bob leaving/getting kicked out of the band, tbh. but i couldn't help but think about you yesterday when i found out. <333333

if i ever get into reading bandom fic again, i'm sure i can read ones with mikey in them. i'm just dreading the first mikey/sarah fics /o\ i'm sure they're bound to appear at some point.

[turps]

It is weird, and as much as I know we'll never know the full truth, or should even expect the whole truth, I'm still reading what new info pops up.

At this point it's as complicated and baffling as the worst kind of fic.

Oh, those stories are bound to appear. Already some fans are buttering her up on her instagram.

[sylvaine]

Oh yes, that's the thing that's worrying me most. Mikey and his family, sure I'm sad and hope that things will work out, but I don't know them, really. I do know lots of fellow fans who have been really hurt by this, and I am very afraid that they will just stop engaging with fandom or being around at all. That would be so terribly sad.:(

*joins the voices assuring you that of course we'll still read your Mikey fics*

[turps]

I totally understand why some people would stop being around, or move on, but I would miss them a lot.

Thank you, bb ♥

[onthehill]

I'm still going to read the Mikey!fics. He's just a human being. Why people expect him to be different than other human beings I don't understand... :(

[turps]

I'm very glad that you are still going to read.

That's lovely to know ♥

[inlovewithnight]

::hugs hugs hugs::

[turps]

♥ ♥ ♥

[dapatty]

Seconded and I adore your writing and ♥.

(And I wish I had a suggestion for the Thunderbird problem, but I haven't a clue. My twitter notifications are spotty at the best of times. I mainly rely on my phone app to keep me informed. :()

[turps]

Thank you so much, bb.

♥

Surprisingly enough, I have FEELINGS about this.

[glitteryv]

I've already talked about the Mikeyway thing over at my post about it and on Twitter (when the news first broke). Poor Aka has had to hold my hand and cuddle me like whoa because I've got some FEEEELINGS as you might understand.

I kept thinking about you yesterday, but I guessed that you needed to regroup just as much as I had to.

Honestly, other than being disappointed in the way Mikeyway has handled the situation (it's a real clusterfuck), I'm mostly sad for him, Alicia and even Sarah.

Mikeyway is still my favourite and I have no intention to stop writing fics about him as well as enjoying Mikeyway-centric fanworks. So, count me in as one of the peeps who will continue reading your fic. Btw, you can talk about Mikeyway not!fics anytime. :)

I deffo understand that some fen are totes brokenhearted about this situation. They've lost I guess you can call it "faith" in him. And they're unable to/are completely uninterested in talking about Mikeyway or enjoying fanworks about him. I know some people won't read my stories anymore (since Mikeyway features so heavily in them.) Or, they won't interact with me as much anymore. That's OK. I respect that and have made my peace with that.

What I don't like is seeing people villanizing him on Twitter or elsewhere. No one except for Mikeyway, Alicia and Sarah know what happened and no one else. That's it. Anyone can speculate til the end of time but that isn't going to change anything.

TL;DR: This is a painful and disappointing situation. Still, Mikeyway is STILL my favourite. You're not alone. *hugs*

[turlough]

You know I will totally continue to read all your Way bros fic! (But I'm not going to start reading the rest of your Mikey stories just because of this ;-)

I remember the Bob situation too and how much damage the blaming and side taking did to the fandom. I'm keeping everything I have crossed that it won't get that bad this time. *squishes you*

Cats totally suck at feedback! Lancecat never has anything constructive to say when I ask him.

I don't use Thunderbird so I can't be of any help I'm afraid.

[turps]

Harper hugs!

Dude, what kind of friend are you!? You should be rushing to read every Mikey story I post to make me happy! >:(

I really hope it doesn't get that bad. I suspect not, more some people will just fade from fandom, which sucks as that includes some of my favourite writers.

Cats are the worst at feedback. They just sit and look at you, and what help is that?

Me and Thunderbird are not friends at the moment. Stupid thing.

[eledhwenlin]

*hugs* I will continue to write Mikey/Ryan for you, anyway. <333

Hm, can you find out which filter is moving the mails from your inbox to that specified folder?

[turps]

Seriously, you don't know how happy you've just made me saying that. Thank you ♥

Well, I've been digging around more and it seems they're actually in the other inbox folder I have in Thunderbird. I did something weird when I set up pop mail so that I get two sets of duplicated emails into two separate inboxes. I keep one active all the time, and answer/delete from there and just forget about the other one. Which is why it has over 40k of email in it /o\

So the DMs have been winding up in there and not my active inbox for some reason. So I guess I need to try and fix that now.

[rubytuesday5681]

I can't read MCR fic right now, not even frerard, it still just upsets me too much. And I certainly can't write it. And tbh, with everything that's been happening, the state of the fic and even the fandom has been pretty much the furthest thing from my mind. I mean, I've spared it a passing thought, but mainly I am too wrapped up in being concerned for the actual people I stan. For me RPF fandom is always about the people fist, the fic comes second. Always.

I understand that a lot of people don't find this to be healthy, but what can I do. I know it isn't a popular approach to RPF, but it's how I operate. I am a very passionate person and I get attached.

I do believe that I will be able to both read and write MCR fic again, though, but I have no idea how long it will be. Could be weeks, could be months. IDK. And some of what and who I'm willing to read/write about within MCR fic is going to be dependent on how things shake out with this whole deal as the dust settles over the next few days and weeks.

Anyhow, I am still going to sign up for BBB. My story is planned and if necessary, it can be written without minimal Mikey. I don't want to do that, but I will if I have to.

I just don't know. At the same time as all of this, though, I still desperately want to ship Mikey/Alicia. I want to read it and I want to write it because I love THEM! As a couple! I've always loved them! And I don't think that just because Mikey in RL has been an idiot, I have to stop shipping a couple I love!
I'm conflicted. I don't really feel this way about other Mikey pairings rn, though.
And my OT3 has always included Mikey and now I fear that my love of that may be lost forever. :(((

We'll see. I can't predict my emotions very well. (obviously, since I really didn't think that I was THIS overinvested in Bandom, but clearly I was mistaken)

*hugs*
<333

[pennyplainknits]

I will keep reading and writing and podficing, and I look forward to what you create <33

[turps]

I'm glad to hear that ♥

[ms_bitch_to_you]

I am so discombobulated by this whole thing. I haven't been in bandom as long as most people I talk to, but I am ridiculously overinvested. Like you say, there's more to this story than we will ever know, and as disappointed as I am I am not going to pretend Mikey doesn't exist nor leave fandom. It will just be weird for a while.

Anyway! I will be here. I will read your words. Maybe not Mikey fic for a while (even though rl Mikey and fic Mikey are separate entities in my head), but that's not to say I'll never read it again.

*hugs*

[turps]

It will be weird, but I hold onto hope that it'll get less weird day by day.

I'm glad you're sticking around.

♥

[gala_apples]

I will ALLLLLWAYS read all of your fic. Like i said in my post, I'm super great at compartmentalising fandom and RL, so it's business as usual. I'm writing Panic for BBB20k, but that's just because it's the only sustainable WIP I have, none of the MCR centric (Mikey centric) would make it to 20k, nothing to do with Mikeyway.

As a side note I'm really happy I wrote my Mikey/Ray werewolf infidelity fic last year, because people would be really upset by it now.

[turps]

&you&

Thank you. I'm very glad to hear that, and that you're going to keep writing him yourself.

[frausorge]

♥

[turps]

♥

Thank you.

[bettina]

I lost people I really liked when Bob left the band, people who defriended and never commented again, and I really don't want that to happen again.

I'm sorry that happened! I'm always sad when I lose fannish friendships like that (when you move on to a different fandom, etc.), but it also makes me appreciate the people that stay more. *hugs*

[turps]

I'm always sad when I lose fannish friendships like that (when you move on to a different fandom, etc.), but it also makes me appreciate the people that stay more. *hugs*

It's such a sad thing, especially when people have been around a while :(

[akamine_chan]

I've been thinking about you these last couple of days.

It's been tough for all of us, I think, and we probably just need some time to process and calm down.

I'm not giving up on Bandom, or Mikey Way. I love both too much.

*hugs you tight*

[turps]

It has been tough, and I hate the feeling of walking on eggshells always.

I 100% believe our fandom will get through this, and I have to say, seeing you say that you're not giving up on bandom or Mikey, that you love both too much. That makes me happy inside.

Thank you for this ♥

[tempore]

I would read you writing just about anything. Sadly, I might be just about as good at feedback as the cats, currently, but I'll do my best, and feel free to nudge me and go, "eh? Yeah? Yeah?"

Anyway, hugs to you

[turps]

Ah, but I'm sure when you're reading you'll be enjoying. The cats just tolerate my ramblings *g*

Thank you ♥

[myficjournal]

I've pretty much talked myself out in other places so will stick to. Have I lost some respect for him? Yes. Have I lost all respect? No, I'm not defending him but there's still a lot of stuff he's done that I respect and that hasn't changed. Do I think more has gone on that we know? Yes. Will I stop reading or writing Mikey fic? Not at all.

This has been the refrain running around in my head since the whole thing happened. I've also felt fairly alone in these thoughts because it was not what I've seen in most of my online spaces. I can't tell you what a relief it is to see someone (and a few more I've found today) who is thinking/feeling similarly to me.

I'm so heartsore for everyone involved because the situation sucks all around, but I can't dislike him over it. I don't know what is going on with him (and neither does anyone else but those involved) and with his history of mental illness, I'm more worried about him than thinking he's a villain.

I'm looking forward to attempting my first BBB this year.

Sabrina (LASAbrina from Twitter)

[turps]

Well in that case I'm really glad that I made this post.

The whole situation makes me sad, too. I feel terrible for everyone involved, and yeah, have lost some respect, but I still like Mikey a lot.

I look at some of the comments being directed at him and can't believe that people could be so mean, especially to someone with the history he has. Death threats are never okay, and he'll never be a villain to me.

That's great you are looking forward to it. My offer still stands, I'm here to cheer you on all of the way.

[ephemera]

**hugs**

just 'cos

[turps]

*leans*

♥