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[turps]

Seeing some of nopseud's fantastic eyeliner icons reminded me of a conversation I had with James where he called me twisted. Now I'm not at all bothered by that but what surprised me was why he said it. The man has no problem with me liking slash, he even downloaded gay porn for me once. However, when I told him one of my kinks was men in eyeliner he said I was twisted, and that just seems like a skewed kind of logic to me. The old butt sex is acceptable, make up isn't? Weird.

I'm just sitting waiting to close sentinel_thurs now. There's another half an hour to go, not that it makes much difference, everyone's too busy to write at the moment. So after reading a post from _jules_ I thought I'd ask my own questions. Well just things I've thought of really.

This whole thing of couples sleeping on one another. Like Blair using Jim's chest as a pillow or Justin lying over Chris. One, won't that be damn uncomfortable, and two, do people actually sleep like that? I don't. That's not to say I sleep on one edge of the bed and James the other but we certainly don't drape all over each other. I wouldn't be able to stand that. I'd be like, get off! in the middle of the night. That could just be me though, for all I know people use other people as pillows all the time.

Morning kisses. Don't they make you go ICK? I wouldn't even kiss myself when I first wake up, never mind someone else. I'm not talking about after about 5 minutes here, I mean literally waking and kissing, morning breathe, claggy eyes and all.

I have another. What's the deal with humming when you give a blow job? I'm wondering if this is just a popslash thing now, I can't remember if I've read it in other fandoms. But in some stories they might as well be singing a full song for all the humming they do. I just don't get it, and it's hard to do too. Not that I've ever tried.

Does the thought of sharing toothbrushes make other people gag? Because I've read stories where they've slept the night and the next day the visitor just shares the hosts toothbrush and I'm reading and gagging. Because that's nasty. Which okay, considering where their mouth has probably been doesn't make sense, but still...

Why aren't there more rimming stories? because I'd read them.

How come men get pillows to put under them if they're bottoming? And how come they're always so flexible. I want to read a story where person A is fucking person B and person B gets a cramp and whacks person A in the head with his foot when he's trying to get his legs to relax.

Does anyone else think holding hands, kissing and touching can be more erotic than the whole 1,2, 3 fuck thing?

Why did the Beast look better before he turned back into a man?

Why have I still got no milk?

Why do I ask so many questions?

But the last one has to be. Why do some people think cross-dressing is erotic? Because it's not. It's so not!

And now it's 9 and I go to close this weeks challenge!

ETA: Forgot to say as I was reading through my 2000 new mails I had some MX feedback! You just don't know how rare that is. I also had two mails offering to put my stories in a book. Yeah right, the world needs a book of my porn *g*

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[phoenyxphiyre.livejournal.com]

Hehe - we got all the men in the house to wear makeup for Halloween. Black eyeliner, black lipstick, black nailpolish, the works...

And the sharing of toothbrushes? EWWWWWWW.....

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I bet the men would have looked fantastic!

And I'm glad you agree about the toothbrush, I was starting to think it was just me.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jules_/]

Does anyone else think holding hands, kissing and touching can be more erotic than the whole 1,2, 3 fuck thing?
Meeee!! I do! I'd much rather read that.

I can say I'm fortunate enough not to have read any sharing of toothbrushes, because that seriously grosses me out.

And I don't care for cross-dressing either. But then I know a lot of people who don't care for reading stories about boys having sex, so who am I to judge? ;)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Meeee!! I do! I'd much rather read that.

I like reading both, but man, sometimes I just melt when I read about two of the guys sitting holding hands.

Sharing toothbrushes is disgusting! I'm glad other people see that!

Lol, I don't judge anyone for liking cross-dressing either. I mean kinks are so subjective. But the cross-dressing just doesn't do it for me.

[nopseud]

However, when I told him one of my kinks was men in eyeliner he said I was twisted, and that just seems like a skewed kind of logic to me.

Heh. I lent Don Juan deMarco to a fellow Johnny Depp afficionado at work, and as we were walking out of the building together I asked her if she'd got to the bit with JD in the harem, and didn't he look good? She said yes and laughed, and said it made her think of Pirates of the Caribbean.

And I said, "It's the eyeliner -- he should wear eyeliner in all his films!"

She agreed the eyeliner was hot, and then there was a pause as she obviously reviewed what she'd said, and then added, "And isn't this a strange topic of conversation?"

I didn't quite feel like saying, "Not for me!"

One, won't that be damn uncomfortable, and two, do people actually sleep like that?

I've been known to sleep with some draping.

Does the thought of sharing toothbrushes make other people gag?

Nope.

How come men get pillows to put under them if they're bottoming?

So that they can come on the pillow, and the pillow will be all nasty and sticky, and they'll be forced to sleep snuggled up on the remaining one. Facilitates equally nasty morning kisses.

(Look, I didn't say I was going to be *right* about any of this, did I?)

Why did the Beast look better before he turned back into a man?

(If this is the Disney film) Because the Prince is Ye Generic Handsome Disney Guy, where the Beast was interestingly drawn and had personality in his face.

(Also, flashback to the TV Beauty and the Beast series. Viiiiiiiiinceeeeeeeent!)

Why do some people think cross-dressing is erotic? Because it's not. It's so not!

YOU LIE!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

She agreed the eyeliner was hot, and then there was a pause as she obviously reviewed what she'd said, and then added, "And isn't this a strange topic of conversation?"

I didn't quite feel like saying, "Not for me!"

Lol, it's just a typical conversation in the weird world of fandom.

I've been known to sleep with some draping

Okay, guess I can let the writers who write draping off now if people actually do it *g*

Nope.

All I can say here is EEEEWWWW!

So that they can come on the pillow, and the pillow will be all nasty and sticky, and they'll be forced to sleep snuggled up on the remaining one. Facilitates equally nasty morning kisses.

You're trying to freak me out aren't you. Sticky nasty pillows... Morning kisses... You're a freak. In the nicest possible way ;)

If this is the Disney film) Because the Prince is Ye Generic Handsome Disney Guy, where the Beast was interestingly drawn and had personality in his face.


Yep, Disney film. That actually makes a lot of sense. I loved the beast, and Vincent! I loved him so much!

YOU LIE!

Now I'll forgive you for the toothbrush, and the kisses and the pillow, but cross-dressing. It's just not erotic! Chris in a bra, Joey in silky panties...so wrong.

[nopseud]

Okay, guess I can let the writers who write draping off now if people actually do it *g*

I guess to be absolutely scrupulously fair, it only works for a while. I can manage a long nap, but if it's at night I'll end up curled up on my side in my usual sleeping position at some point.

You're a freak. In the nicest possible way ;)

Heh. You sweet-talker you ;-)

Now I'll forgive you for the toothbrush, and the kisses and the pillow, but cross-dressing. It's just not erotic! Chris in a bra, Joey in silky panties...so wrong.

{sighs dreamily}

I'll just be over here in a happy place...

(And a big thank you for the visuals :-)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

{sighs dreamily}

I'll just be over here in a happy place...

(And a big thank you for the visuals :-)

*thud*

That's me, on the floor, but in a bad way. I hope you know I can't get the image of Joey in silk panties and Chris in a bra out of my head now! I know I mentioned them before but I wasn't seeing them like that.

I'm scarred for life now :(

[nopseud]

I hope you know I can't get the image of Joey in silk panties and Chris in a bra out of my head now!

You lucky, lucky thing.

And don't forget the kitten heels and silk stockings!

I'm scarred for life now :(

{does the dance of evil joy}

[ninjetti75.livejournal.com]

lol, Evil Thoughts.

Nopseud, you've _so_ got major evil points with this thread. Heh.

Sorry, Terri, but evil!world-dominating!Lance is just standing over here with one eyebrow quirked, going: "Wouldn't you like to know what women's clothing =I'M= wearing?" *dies laughing*

Hmm, lessee. I'm either way about toothbrushes, draping is lovely, as long as both people are still sleepers, and morning kisses are fine as long as the euphoria of waking up with someone is still fresh. Once you're used to someone or take their presence for granted, morning breath & eyesand become much harder to overlook.

And I'm not into cross dressing, but to each their own

[castalie.livejournal.com]

I so was going to answer your questions, sis, then I read the last one, and I realized I'd totally forgotten what the first ones were about! lol

What? Scroll the page up --whatever the hell the real order for this bloody sentence is-- sure, I could do that *sigh*

Hmm so okay, I totally agree with the sleeping position thing, and the morning kisses. But man, don't tell me you're turning toward *realistic* stories? Cos you should warn your sis, ya know that? lol I'm fragile, and should be handled with care!

*suddenly peeks at TV* *makes a face* Oh man- I'm watching this really weird movie --well I'm more *listening* to it than actually watching it, I so love the British English accent-- and I don't know what the hell the characters are doing, or thinking, but they're always all parading in their birthday suit, and know what? I realized I was *really* happy to be a girl *and* gay!

Okay, uh... where was I, again? Oh yeah, the rimming thing now. I don't know when I started to like this kink- I guess it just sneaked on me one day when I wasn't looking, but I sure second what you said, it's a pity there aren't more rimming stories!

*peeks again at TV* Oh well now *that's* interesting! Five pretty boys all naked in the swimming pool... leaving the swimming pool... oh, and starting to touch and cuddle with each other. Well, apparently they don't want to show me hot nekkid women anymore, but I guess it'll do if the pretty boys keep touching one another *eg*

*blink* Know what? I think I'm going to stop this comment, because a) it's turning into a real and sorta weird mail, and b) I'm starting to confuse even myself.

What was the content of your entry again?

[turps33.livejournal.com]

so was going to answer your questions, sis, then I read the last one, and I realized I'd totally forgotten what the first ones were about! lol

Yeah, I was feeling wordy, and silly *g*

Don't worry, no realistic stories for me, this was a one time thing to see what people really think. We all know fanfic isn't reality, and I wouldn't want it to be. But if the next story I write has Jim unable to get it up and recoiling from Blair's bad breath I'll blame this thread *g*

Rimming is good! And it's a shame there's not more stories about it. Maybe the pretty naked boys in your movie would rim?

What was the content of your entry again?

Rimming.....drooooooool.......what did you say? lol.

[estrella30.livejournal.com]

Oh wow. You hit on a BUNCH of my major issues right here in one post.

I never get the sleeping draped all over each other. If you were to watch Qbert and I sleep you'd think we hated each others guts we're so far away from each other, lol. The thought of someone lying all over me as I'm trying to sleep gets me itchy, and I couldn't imagine doing it to someone else.

Eew to the morning breath, and no, I don't know why we don't see more rimming. I also can't believe the amount of swallowing that goes on in slash stories, especially first times. Maybe I'm getting too personal here, but imo that's something you work up to, and I can't imagine the very first time a guy is in that position he's swallowing like a champ. I don't buy it.

I'm with you on the cross dressing thing (ick!) and I'm actually kinda with James on the makeup thing. To me, the most erotic part about slash is having these two tough, strong, masculine guys just...combusting from their deeper urges to jump each other and screw each other's brains out. The makeup kinda negates that for me. A little too feminine.

And I'd much rather read a good, angsty, hand holding, kissing, or as Rhyo calls it 'two tab A's and no slot B' type of story, than a crappy slash story. Again, I'm a 'first time' slut, and will read almost any first time story, the angstier the better *grins*

Wow. That's way more than my 2 cents. That might even be a whole quarter there...

N

Weird questions, weird answers. *G*

[patk.livejournal.com]

>This whole thing of couples sleeping on one another. Like Blair using Jim's chest as a pillow or Justin lying over Chris. One, won't that be damn uncomfortable, and two, do people actually sleep like that?<

First: yes, second: no. *g*

Too uncomfortable to sleep the whole night like this. The only way this works is, if you're forced to sleep in *really* small quarters, like the back of your car. *G*

>Morning kisses. Don't they make you go ICK?

They do. *G*

>I have another. What's the deal with humming when you give a blow job?<

No clue, I tried it with hubby but he found it tickles and had to laugh. *G* Of course, that was after his eyes went round and he asked what the hell was up with me. *G*

>Does the thought of sharing toothbrushes make other people gag?<

Not exactly gag, but it isn't something I would do. *g*

>Why aren't there more rimming stories? because I'd read them.<

Because people who see no problem with sharing a toothbrush draw their line at tongue and a..hole sharing almost the same space? ;-)

>How come men get pillows to put under them if they're bottoming?<

No clue, but this trick isn't new. Not even in het-sex and not even in RL. *g*

>Does anyone else think holding hands, kissing and >touching can be more erotic than the whole 1,2, 3 >fuck thing?

Absolutely.

>Why did the Beast look better before he turned back >into a man?

He did? I wouldn't know about it. *G*

>Why have I still got no milk?

Because you didn't buy some?

>Why do I ask so many questions?

Because you have fun with the answers?

>But the last one has to be. Why do some people >think cross-dressing is erotic? Because it's not. >It's so not!

Well, I'm not much into guys wearing ladies clothes, but one of the most erotic stories I ever read had Blair wearing kind of a "rocky horror picture show"-outfit. But it wasn't only the clothes, it was the whole context of the story and he was so *male* in it. *g* It's "Punk Rock" by Jane Mailander and sadly it's only published in the zine "Your Kink or mine II".

Pat

:-)