turps: (trickyfish3 (pensnest))
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I didn't notice that the back gate had blown open and have just spent a long time looking for Tex. Of course when I came back he was sitting on the step.

Before I went I was commenting to [livejournal.com profile] firequill about popslash/bandom and she asked what pairing she'd like if she liked trickyfish in popslash. Which was a cool thing to think about when I was trudging around looking for a relatively small dog in a big field/hill.

So, my thoughts, let me show you them.

First off, my initial reaction was to tell her that it was Mikey/Frank, because everyone should love that pairing. However, pushing aside my personal bias, I tried to think of matches between the fandoms. Of course nothing will match exactly due to personalties and dynamics being so different, still, it was fun to try.

When I got into bandom back in the day [livejournal.com profile] callsigns told me that Ryan/Pete could be said to be like timbertrick, with the age differences and often written as fucked up. Which yes, I can see that.

JuC/Joshtin has to be Ferard/Gerard/Frank, a hugely popular pairing where when the stories are good, they're awesome, when they're bad they're horrible.

However, we have a problem in that neither Gerard or Frank are the main angst magnet in the fandom. Step forward Mikeyway. The man who gets raped, beaten, abused, beaten up, killed and suffers from eating disorders on a regular basis. So if Mikey is the JC of MCR, that means the Justin would have to be Gerard, someone who holds concert goers in the palm of his hand and has inappropriate love for family members. It fits! Sort of. If you squint.

Obviously Joey is like Ray, both made of awesome, not written enough and with thighs of steel.

I don't know. I have lots of popslash/bandom people on my flist, so tell me. Trickyfish = ? Any band goes, it doesn't have to be MCR. So feel free to tell me how Lance Bass is Brendon Urie in another body.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hammerhead22.livejournal.com
So, does that make Bob = Chris? Because, if so, that so explains my obsession with Bob!

Date: 2008-06-25 03:28 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (need a hug)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Both gorgeous, both can cut through bull in seconds, both solid and muscled, both love shorts and long socks combo.

Oh hell yes!

Date: 2008-06-25 03:24 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Lance Bass = Spencer Smith in my world. They're the schedule boys, business minded, etc. Which then totally explains why I like Brendon/Spencer bestest, the business minded and the spaz.

And Ray is *so* not written enough. Guh, Ray.

And your description of Mikeyway makes me think of Ilya in Uncle fandom. Poor boys.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:34 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (nick belting it out)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I can see that. It's a nice match in both cases, and man, can you imagine the foursome that would create? *drools*

There should be much more Ray! It's like the Joey Deserves Dick too campaign. Ray Needs More Play!

There always seems to be one guy that gets hurt the most in fandoms, which tends to be the one I love the most *g*

Date: 2008-06-25 03:44 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
My brain cannot even handle the image of the foursome. I still have 4 hours of work to try to do, that would just fry me for the rest of the week.

Date: 2008-06-25 06:35 pm (UTC)
rikes: drawing of a fairy, with cherry blossoms (Default)
From: [personal profile] rikes
Also, Lance and Spencer both (used to) look like girls. Sorry! But it's true. :)

Date: 2008-06-25 08:13 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (Default)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
But Spencer looked like a much bitchier girl than Lance ever managed :-)

Date: 2008-06-25 08:36 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
No argument there at all. Good point!

Date: 2008-06-25 09:03 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Pete/Joe)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
It's very true *g*

Date: 2008-06-25 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llamabitchyo.livejournal.com
One time the gate blew open when I was dogsitting my parents' dog. She ran over to the neighbors yard and then disappeared around the corner. The neighbors were sitting in the yard, not saying a thing as they watched me walk across their yard looking for her. And there was no sign of the dog... until I noticed that their back door was open just enough to be perfectly dog-width.

Neighbors didn't do a thing until I said, "Um... I think the dog just went in your house..."

Sure enough, she was in there eating out of their cat's dish.

...

Date: 2008-06-25 03:44 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (friends now)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Hee!

That's dogs for you, always doing what they shouldn't. Though not as bad as cats, which take wrong doings to another level at times.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] llamabitchyo.livejournal.com
:D

That's why I love the Trickyfish in which Chris is a cat. He'd make such a good one!

Date: 2008-06-25 03:38 pm (UTC)
sperrywink: (Lance Friend)
From: [personal profile] sperrywink
I agree with [livejournal.com profile] lazydwarf, I see Lance as equivalent to Spencer Smith.
As for trickyfish, hmm, I'm partial to Spencer/Brendon too, but I could also see Spencer/Bob. Bob is a stretch as Chris, but he's older than Spencer and would be a bit of a mentor.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:40 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Yum, Spencer/Bob is always on my list of most favorite pairings ever.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:42 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (need a hug)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
So obviously I'm going to spend the comments of this post drooling over the pairings that are suggested.

Spencer/Bob. Hmmmmmm.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:43 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Never a bad thing! How about some Frank/Bob?

Date: 2008-06-25 03:51 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (chris light)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Can Mikey join in? Because they would be so pretty all tangled on the bed. Blond hair, tattooed skin, pale skin, smeared eye make-up, sharp hip bones and calloused fingers, strong dummer arms and just, gah!

Date: 2008-06-25 03:54 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Of course! The more the merrier! So very pretty.

Date: 2008-06-25 03:58 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Chase <lj user="glowinglogos">)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Excellent!

Okay then, we have Mikey/Frank/Bob. I throw in a Spencer!

Date: 2008-06-25 04:43 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (Default)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
Or Gerard! Bob/Frank/Mikey/Gerard would be very, very pretty!

Date: 2008-06-25 05:25 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (so wrong)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Oh. Yes!

*goes to happy place yet again*

Date: 2008-06-25 08:39 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Mmmm...yummy. :)

Date: 2008-06-25 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giddygeek.livejournal.com
Pete/Patrick hits a lot of the same buttons that Chris/Lance hits for me! Plus it's got the benefit of a lot of good stories to suck a newbie in. ;-)

Date: 2008-06-25 04:04 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Choey new (musiquedevie))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Oh, I approve of that so hard!

Date: 2008-06-25 04:46 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (otp)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
It was the same for me - except that I soon grew tired of Pete/Patrick and I never got tired of Trickyfish.

Date: 2008-06-25 08:39 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Glad it's not just me. I totally agree.

Date: 2008-06-25 05:02 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (Default)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
Gerard as the My Chem Justin? *dies of laughter* But since Gerard writes the lyrics and Ray a lot of the music wouldn't that make Gerard/Ray the JuC of My Chem :-P I wonder if Frank would be the equivalent of Chris? Small and dark and hyper and giggly and with lots of tattoos. Hmmm, but that would leave Bob and Mikey to be Lance and Joey and that's just scary!

It's a little strange that Gerard isn't a bigger angst magnet, with his backstory he ought to be perfect for it. Not that I'm complaining, you know what I think of excessive angst ;-)

To be serious for a minute, the more I think about it the less possible it seems to compare either Nsync or Backstreet to one of the bandfandom bands. The dynamics within the bands are so different because their histories are so very different.

Date: 2008-06-25 05:24 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (mcr ( wertica_))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I've been amusing myself trying to match people up, though in reality you're right. They are so different it's impossible to do so.

Still, it's fun trying. Especially thinking about Gerard/Ray being the JuC of bandom.

but that would leave Bob and Mikey to be Lance and Joey and that's just scary!

I don't know. I'm sure Bob can throw up the horns *g*

I do know how you are with excessive angst, so I'll just read it for you.

It is weird though, but I guess it just shows that angst magnets will always be the so called frailest looking ones in a fandom.

Date: 2008-06-25 05:58 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (sneaky bastard)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
I'm sure Bob can throw up the horns

I don't think Mikey could do it to save his life :-) Of course that leaves him as the ladies man *giggles*

it just shows that angst magnets will always be the so called frailest looking ones

And that young girls are blind - Mikey isn't frail, he's just bony and gangly *runs away giggling madly*

Date: 2008-06-25 06:03 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Chip)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
MIKEYWAY IS GORGEOUS! HE COULD HAVE ANY LADY HE WANTED!

Date: 2008-06-25 06:06 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (Default)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
That's just because they want him to take off his boots so they can steal them ;-)

Date: 2008-06-25 08:38 pm (UTC)
ext_1816: (Default)
From: [identity profile] lazydwarf.livejournal.com
Yes! And his coats too! Except how I probably couldn't fit in them, as he's so bony. ;)

Date: 2008-06-25 08:58 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (wee!bob one)
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I have to admit, his boots are things of wonder.

They should be featured in fic much more often.

Date: 2008-06-25 09:23 pm (UTC)
ext_312: Desolation Row!Gerard (Default)
From: [identity profile] turloughishere.livejournal.com
They really should!! (But there's no need to include Mikey himself, the boots are enough ;-)

Date: 2008-06-26 08:12 am (UTC)
ext_1650: (Fangs up! (turloughishere))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
.....

The very idea!

Date: 2008-06-25 07:47 pm (UTC)
ext_13511: (Default)
From: [identity profile] milosflaca.livejournal.com
Sorry to butt in, but yes. He could have ANY woman he wanted. He could have me, for example. I'm all up for the task,

Date: 2008-06-25 08:59 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Fangs up! (turloughishere))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Yes. Exactly!

I'd take one for the team, too.

Date: 2008-06-25 07:47 pm (UTC)
ext_13511: (Default)
From: [identity profile] milosflaca.livejournal.com
Obviously Joey is like Ray, both made of awesome, not written enough and with thighs of steel.

I seriously love Ray. He's not handsome in an obvious way but god, he can make my heart skip a beat. Yes, yes.

I haven't read much of bandslash (I'm afraid I will get hooked, and that will be not very good), but the few things I've read, yes. It does sound like a good and accurate comparison.

Date: 2008-06-25 09:01 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Charlie (digital_diva))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I seriously love Ray. He's not handsome in an obvious way but god, he can make my heart skip a beat

Yep, that's the perfect description of him. There's something about him that's just, guh!

I read so much bandslash now. Of course I'm nowhere as busy as you which helps a lot. It also explains why I'm hooked.

Date: 2008-07-03 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephemera.livejournal.com
spontaneous realisation earlier this evening, when I wasn't digging back through old entries catching up: Bob/Frank would be Choey? Or Joey/AJ?

Date: 2008-07-04 08:05 am (UTC)
ext_1650: (Mikey/ray (samelthecamel))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Oh yes, you're right. Bob/Frank really does have that Choey vibe.

I approve of that so much!
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