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Mar. 25th, 2013 08:47 amWhen I woke up this morning my in box was full of emails, and I instantly thought, what's gone on now?
So, I went to check and within a short period, read Gerard's on birds and glass post, Mikey's tweets and then watched FOB's new video for The Phoenix.
First off. That video. OMG. I love it. The song is fantastic, and there's a hawk, and the band looking amazing, even while all bloodied and tortured. I'm looking forward to their album so much.
Gerard's post, or very long tweet I guess. It's what I wanted to hear, so much better than the impersonal paragraph from before. I love how it's so 'him' and that he's made the end of MCR make sense. 12 years is a really long time, especially considering the life that they live, and if the magic is going, and more seriously, Gerard was falling back into old habits before getting himself clean again, ending things was the right thing to do.
To me it also explains more about the Mikey situation . I've been talking about this in email extensively since the whole Sarah thing started, and it didn't take long to realise I didn't think any cheating happened. I'm not making excuses for him, because I still think he behaved badly in some ways, but actually cheating while with Alicia, nope. More that he was isolating himself and seeking distraction and from the outside looking in, then went on to make some bad choices.
A report came out about someone meeting him at Morrisoncon and Mikey admitting he was depressed and spent most of the con trailing his suitcase around unsure if he should stay or go. Add that to knowing that Gerard was having issues and the band future was in doubt, that must have been hard for someone who's always said all he wanted was to be in a band with his brother.
I was so relieved when that recent picture came out of Gerard and Mikey together. I'm stupidly over invested about those two, and while I've never had any real worries they were on the outs, there was a tiny niggle.... Man, I said I was never going to talk about the Mikey situation on here, but I just hope Gerard speaking up has taken the heat off Mikey and Sarah. I never want to see another manip of Mikey with a knife through his neck, or so-called fans calling him an asshole who broke up the band. As for Sarah, I'm not her biggest fan to say the least, but the level of hate she was getting is disgusting. Whatever you think of her, and believe me, I've expressed some negative feelings over the last months, leaving comments on her instagram or an @ reply on twitter saying that she's a slut, a cunt, that she should die, is wrong.
Looking at Mikey's @ replies on twitter, it looks like the reason he had to mention his relationship at all was he tweeted about the end of the band, saying thank you to everyone, and then along with the positive replies got hate tweets, too. I can't imagine how that must have felt.
It's why I hope people read Gerard's words and realise that, while them ending things hurts, it's what they had to do with no blame involved.

With honor, integrity, closure, and on no one’s terms but our own- the door closes.
And another opens-
I'm looking forward to seeing what that open door reveals. Be that music, art, acting, writing, so many things that they take pleasure in doing, I'll be waiting.
ETA: Added picture of Mikey and Gerard for those that hadn't seen.
All that said, how about that hawk and half naked Pete...
So, I went to check and within a short period, read Gerard's on birds and glass post, Mikey's tweets and then watched FOB's new video for The Phoenix.
First off. That video. OMG. I love it. The song is fantastic, and there's a hawk, and the band looking amazing, even while all bloodied and tortured. I'm looking forward to their album so much.
Gerard's post, or very long tweet I guess. It's what I wanted to hear, so much better than the impersonal paragraph from before. I love how it's so 'him' and that he's made the end of MCR make sense. 12 years is a really long time, especially considering the life that they live, and if the magic is going, and more seriously, Gerard was falling back into old habits before getting himself clean again, ending things was the right thing to do.
To me it also explains more about the Mikey situation . I've been talking about this in email extensively since the whole Sarah thing started, and it didn't take long to realise I didn't think any cheating happened. I'm not making excuses for him, because I still think he behaved badly in some ways, but actually cheating while with Alicia, nope. More that he was isolating himself and seeking distraction and from the outside looking in, then went on to make some bad choices.
A report came out about someone meeting him at Morrisoncon and Mikey admitting he was depressed and spent most of the con trailing his suitcase around unsure if he should stay or go. Add that to knowing that Gerard was having issues and the band future was in doubt, that must have been hard for someone who's always said all he wanted was to be in a band with his brother.
I was so relieved when that recent picture came out of Gerard and Mikey together. I'm stupidly over invested about those two, and while I've never had any real worries they were on the outs, there was a tiny niggle.... Man, I said I was never going to talk about the Mikey situation on here, but I just hope Gerard speaking up has taken the heat off Mikey and Sarah. I never want to see another manip of Mikey with a knife through his neck, or so-called fans calling him an asshole who broke up the band. As for Sarah, I'm not her biggest fan to say the least, but the level of hate she was getting is disgusting. Whatever you think of her, and believe me, I've expressed some negative feelings over the last months, leaving comments on her instagram or an @ reply on twitter saying that she's a slut, a cunt, that she should die, is wrong.
Looking at Mikey's @ replies on twitter, it looks like the reason he had to mention his relationship at all was he tweeted about the end of the band, saying thank you to everyone, and then along with the positive replies got hate tweets, too. I can't imagine how that must have felt.
It's why I hope people read Gerard's words and realise that, while them ending things hurts, it's what they had to do with no blame involved.

With honor, integrity, closure, and on no one’s terms but our own- the door closes.
And another opens-
I'm looking forward to seeing what that open door reveals. Be that music, art, acting, writing, so many things that they take pleasure in doing, I'll be waiting.
ETA: Added picture of Mikey and Gerard for those that hadn't seen.
All that said, how about that hawk and half naked Pete...
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Date: 2013-03-25 09:38 am (UTC)And as much I'll miss the band, I wouldn't want it if it was no longer a positive thing for the guys. What would be the point of that? I want them to be happy and sane and still friends.
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Date: 2013-03-25 09:46 am (UTC)And yeah, that's it exactly. We all know how much it sucks when we have to do something we don't want to do. That has to be magnified a thousand times when you pretty much live your job 24/7.
Happy, sane and still friends is always the best outcome.
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Date: 2013-03-25 10:49 am (UTC)A part of me also thinks - though I haven't been keeping up with the details so it's just a really uninformed *thought* - that maybe if they were all kind of spiraling down because of the band coming to an end, that might have been a factor in Mikey's life decisions, you know? Like, idk. I hope it helps him cope with the end of the band, even if the relationship is also a factor in him getting hate which can't help.
Ugh. Why are some people so careless with their hatred /o\
Anyway! I'm slowly, slowly working towards being excited for what's next, too. And I can't even tell you how much I need to hear from Frank (and Ray, but FRANK!)
*hugs*
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Date: 2013-03-25 11:06 am (UTC)I don't want to speculate on his marriage, as obviously I don't know anything about it, but if that was ending, and the band was ending and the people he'd spent so much time with were dealing with their own issues, wanting to get away would make sense. That he is coping is something I often think about, over invested to the end I guess.
The hatred toward Sarah was ridiculous. It was bad enough before the split was announced, but after, I was glad when she shut down her instragram.
I suspect Frank's response will be a doozy. Maybe he's sitting right now looking through all of his old merch, play lists etc, thinking what he's going to say.
♥ I'm glad you're feeling a bit better.
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Date: 2013-03-25 11:16 am (UTC)Yeah, I'm sure when Frank speaks it'll be back to ALL THE TEARS for a while. But I'm going to need it before I can fully process, I think. *assumes brace position*
I'm glad too. I keep thinking I want to DO SOMETHING for the fandom but... Idk what. I wish someone who host a giant memorial love meme or something, but then I don't even know if I could bear to participate. I guess it's too early for fix-it fic /o\
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Date: 2013-03-25 11:42 am (UTC)Also a repeat watch of Phoenix made me smile to myself a little on the way home. ♥falloutboy♥ ♥HALFNAKEDPEEEEEEEETE♥
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Date: 2013-03-25 12:08 pm (UTC)Half naked Pete is an amazing thing! The whole video is fantastic. The song is fantastic. FOB are fantastic!
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Date: 2013-03-25 02:47 pm (UTC)Oh damn, I feel so bad for him. He handled all of this really badly, but I find it understandable.
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Date: 2013-03-25 02:56 pm (UTC)He has handled things badly, but it seems he's been carrying a lot of weight on his shoulders for a long time.
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Date: 2013-03-25 03:02 pm (UTC)Augh, now I really hate my brain /o\ I was so preoccupied with dodging the gory bits (I can't really handle that level of gore, sadly) that it didn't even fully register that PETE, HALF-NAKED!! Damnit.
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Date: 2013-03-25 03:05 pm (UTC)Yes, can we talk more about that, please? I mentioned elsewhere that I now want behind-the-scenes fic. Because Pete! With a hawk! Can you imagine how that went? xD He must have been so stoked. (I don't even care what else happens in this hypothetical fic, as long as I get Pete and a hawk ^^)
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Date: 2013-03-25 03:16 pm (UTC)Imagine his smile as he practised handling the hawk. Huge glove on, maybe flinching back at first at the whoosh of air and feathers next to his face. But then he grins, just beaming, because he's got a hawk on his arm.
And he's back filming a video with the people he loves and has missed so much, and at that moment, everything is right in Pete's world.
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Date: 2013-03-25 03:22 pm (UTC)*beams like Pete*
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Date: 2013-03-25 04:20 pm (UTC)And really yes, Pete. With a hawk. What even.
♥ ♥ ♥
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Date: 2013-03-25 05:39 pm (UTC)PEEEETE! And somehow I too missed his half nakedness. IDEK. The video is a thing of wonder. FOB is a thing of wonder. Patrick, omg his voice! *hands*
<3
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Date: 2013-03-25 05:57 pm (UTC)I love this band, and am going to miss them a lot. But I'm glad they called it quits before it came something to endure and not enjoy.
Pete with a hawk is amazing! He looks so good, even if he can't act for toffee *g*
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Date: 2013-03-25 06:00 pm (UTC)I really do worry about Mikey. I know he's a grown man who makes his own decisions, but I suspect he must feel like he's had the rug pulled at from under his feet at the moment.
Missing Pete being half naked is understandable as the video is so full of other stuff to watch. The hawk, the torture, the stalking of bandboys. Patrick! Omg, Patrick. His hand D:
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Date: 2013-03-25 06:55 pm (UTC)But he was always a good dude when I got to talk to him. So I still back him. I look forward to see what Mikey wants to do now. I hope he becomes Pete's "bass tech".
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Date: 2013-03-25 07:20 pm (UTC)It made me sad to hear that he'd been falling back into old habits but I'm definitely not suprised. And I'd far rather have them all be happy and healthy without the band than have the band at the price of their mental and physical health. (But now I want all the fic about those months!)
I completely agree with your analysis of the Mikey situation. It sounds very, very plausible to me. And yes, the picture of Gerard and Mikey together is very happymaking. (I want to pinch Gerard's cheeks! He has the most pinch-able cheeks I've ever seen :-)
I need to watch the new FOB video. I'm not that keen on gore so I'm a bit wary but I definitely need to see it.
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Date: 2013-03-25 07:54 pm (UTC)OMG, The Phoenix, song and video, are both amazing! I am so stoked for the FOB album, I can't even contain it!
Pete must have been so thrilled to work with the hawk. And Half-naked Pete is always one of my interests. *g*
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Date: 2013-03-27 03:27 pm (UTC)Gerard extended tweet was earnest and charming (just like the man who wrote it. *g*). I was happy to hear that the break-up didn't happen due to bad blood.
Mikeyway tweeting thanks to the fans and then about his relationship with Sarah was bittersweet. Seeing him surface in Twitter was awesome. Some fans' reactions were...horrible. I don't understand how someone can call themselves a fan and then go ahead and attack (via insults, for example) anyone involved with the band. The guys aren't perfect (no one is), but some factions' idea of what's an appropriate public response to someone they're a fan of is just... O_o?
Add that to knowing that Gerard was having issues and the band future was in doubt, that must have been hard for someone who's always said all he wanted was to be in a band with his brother.
*nods* I've seen that idea about how "all Mikeyway's done in life is be in a band with his brother" in other people's posts. He had part-time jobs as a teen, yeah, but A LOT of what shaped his sense of self is tied to the fact that he's been a musician most of his life. Will he sit down and write his horror novel? Become a shark documentary filmmaker? Who knows.
I too was a tad worried about the Way bros. OTOH, yeah, they're close (some would say 'excessively codependent'). OTOH, they both had to deal with some heavy stuff (Gerard slipping into bad habits, the dissolution of Mikeyway and Alicia's marriage). Like you, I know it's silly, but, I dunno, seeing that pic (even with Mikeyway's wonky expression) is very reassuring. \Way bros/!
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Date: 2013-03-29 11:26 am (UTC)I was really glad no bad blood was involved, too. It means that while I am sad still about them breaking up, I know it's something that happened naturally and not them starting to dislike each other. I would have hated that.
The guys aren't perfect (no one is), but some factions' idea of what's an appropriate public response to someone they're a fan of is just... O_o?
I agree totally. I was ashamed of part of the fan base. They're upset, I get that, but the way some of them reacted was horrible. When I saw that manip of Mikey with a knife through his neck I felt sick. I just don't get how you can have that level of hate against someone in a band you supposedly worship.
Will he sit down and write his horror novel? Become a shark documentary filmmaker? Who knows.
Ah! Now I really want him to make a shark documentary. Can you imagine how happy he'd be? Hands flying, grinning as he talks about sharks :D
I just hope he finds something that makes him happy in this next part of his life.
Yep. It is silly to be so concerned about them, but I couldn't help it. So seeing that picture was a relief, even if it's not the best one of them ever. To say the least *g*
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Date: 2013-03-29 02:22 pm (UTC)But yes, Mikey as Pete's bass tech would be fantastic >:)
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Date: 2013-03-29 02:25 pm (UTC)And I'd far rather have them all be happy and healthy without the band than have the band at the price of their mental and physical health. (But now I want all the fic about those months!)
Oh, totally. And yeah, fic from those months would be fantastic. If slightly depressing. Angsty fic set at the compound, that would hit the spot.
I was just saying in email, it sounds like both Mikey and Gerard hit down times together, and unfortunately, that meant they didn't have their usual support in each other.
Have you seen the video yet? I can't remember if I've seen you mention it or not.
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Date: 2013-03-29 02:26 pm (UTC)Release the hawk! So much love.
Half naked Pete. Happy days :D
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Date: 2013-03-29 09:37 pm (UTC)No, not yet. I tried but just the knowledge that there will be blood and gore and torture made it impossible. And since I didn't find the song that interesting I didn't even have that to lure me further.