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[turps]

Normally I'm all about sitting on that fence and not making waves, but I've just skimmed the flist, and that meme about gay rights that's going around pisses me off. Big time.

Especially this part. If you don't believe in gay rights, then just ignore this. Thanks.

So, if I decide not to copy paste a block of words into my journal I'm this uncaring thing that doesn't give a damn?

The people I read on here, I read them because I like them, I know what they believe. I don't need a mass posted thing to try and guilt me into doing the same.

I get the sentiment. I really do. But the wording?

I'm going to regret posting this I know. Should have just vented to friends, but sometimes that fence gets uncomfortable.

Comments

[ninjetti75.livejournal.com]

*smooches*

If it helps any, I don't think it was deliberately phrased so badly.

Ah well.

I'm choosing to ignore this one. If people don't realize that I'm about as pro-gay as it's possible to be, they obviously don't know me, lol.

[timian.livejournal.com]

You're not alone. I didn't care for the wording either.

[ihearthings-ii.livejournal.com]

no I totally know what you mean. and I agree. like, so if I somehow missed it, I'm a bad person?

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I don't think it was deliberately phrased so badly.

Yeah, I think that too. It's just so insulting the way it is phrased. I'm not going to post it, does that make me some kind of homophobe? Will five seconds of time to copy paste something make me a better pro-gay person?

If people don't realize that I'm about as pro-gay as it's possible to be, they obviously don't know me, lol

Exactly!

The whole thing annoys me no end.

*leans*

[tara]

I don't see why you should regret anything. That's dreadful wording. I never copy/paste those things, because I feel no need to clutter up my friends' flist with the same thing over and over again. I haven't seen that particular one, but I think it's pretty obvious that I believe in gay rights, and I wouldn't repost it.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

The wording is horrible.

I get the sentiment, but the way they've written it annoys me so much.

I want to be seen for my overall actions and words, not a 5 second copy paste job.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Exactly! That's what the wording implies, and it's bloody annoying.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I don't see why you should regret anything.

Mainly because I'm a wimp with stuff like this. I always imagine a mass defriending, especially because a lot of my flist have posted the meme. A wimp and irrational, that's me *g*

Which is why I posted this. I had to scroll past a mass of them, all implying I'd be some bad uncaring person if I didn't post the thing in my own journal.

Which, no way. Like I commented above, see me for my long time words and actions, not my ability to copy paste.

[ihearthings-ii.livejournal.com]

just, hey, I believe. I support. I am. and if you don't know that by now, well, you haven't been paying attention.

[tara]

I seriously don't think that any of the people who have posted it would see it that way. You're not saying OMG YOU SUCK IF YOU POST THIS, you're saying why you're not posting it.

Actions always speak louder than words, especially if they're cut-and-pasted words that are badly phrased in the first place :)

[vaudevilles.livejournal.com]

Agreeing with you immensely heaps. That meme made me flail wildly with pissed-offness in the same way that my mother guilt tripping me does.

Let us be not-sheep together on this one.

[synecdochic]

Internet Activism! Copy and paste this boilerplate text into a journal nobody who doesn't already agree with you will ever see, so you'll be able to assuage your liberal guilt and rest smug in the fact that you've CHANGED THE WORLD.

[pensnest]

I wonder who the "we" might be, and why "we" are so damned nosy, and why "we" have the right to put out a blanket demand to know how other people think. Bah.

It's a good quote, though.

At work... working *cough*

[castalie.livejournal.com]

Between two students I'm scanning the flist and dude, that was exactly my thought. I know it's stupid but I did find that kind of phrasing pretty stupid too, as if people who didn't do that meme didn't believe in gay rights...right! I'll pass, I think. Besides, it's not as if anyone had anything to prove around here - or cetainly not us :-) I like the sentiment behind the meme but I just don't like the wording, so yeah...

[nopseud]

I never repost those memes. They're just a pointless waste of electrons. And you're dead right that that one is particularly obnoxiously worded.

Hmm. Maybe I'll start a new meme myself.

I don't support any rights. I hate all people, and I wish a plague of boils on you all. Especially you -- yes, you! The bastard who cut me up in traffic on the way to work this morning! You know who you are, you and your fucking ugly company car. USE A FUCKING HANDS-FREE PHONE, YOU DICKHEAD!

Please repost this in your journal if you feel the same! {sparkly hearts}

[http://users.livejournal.com/_unashamed/]

I'm not going to post this in my LJ, either. And I'm as much pro - gay-right as possible. And yes, the wording is... quite unfortunate and obnoxious.

[ephemera.livejournal.com]

If you care about equal rights, get off your ass and do something effective about it, as well as living your life by those ideals. If you don't care about equal rights, fuck off

surely?

It is a good quote, but the whole cutesy pre-digested thought thing? **ragesmash**

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I like the quote, but the way it's been bound up in the meme irks me.

I'm not that keen on the copy paste memes anyway, this one just amps up the dislike even more.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad it's not me. I was skimming the flist and there were post after post of this, and each one was making me more pissed off.

Let us be not-sheep together on this one.

Too right!

How did your weekend go? I hope you all had fun.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

The more I see it the more annoyed I get. Which is bad as the damn thing is everywhere.

Re: At work... working *cough*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Sneaky working comment, sis. I like *g*

The sentiment is great, but what's the point in this meme? The people I surround myself with know how I feel, I know how they feel. It's all so redundant. Then the part that implies if you don't care you won't post. Man, so annoying!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

They're just a pointless waste of electrons.

I agree. Mostly I scroll on by, but this one really annoyed me with its stupid wording.

Your meme however, I could get behind posting that, and I don't even drive ;)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

The wording is horrible. Telling people they don't care if they don't repost. So not on.

[soul4poetry.livejournal.com]

You know..I posted that in such a hurry last night, that I didn't really notice the wording..and I AGREE with you. It is worded badly. I'm not deleting (mmm..or maybe re-wording it) because of what you said..but because I've actually read it correctly. I can see now how it can be taken "wrong".

Don't regret posting this at all Terri. I wouldn't have read it thouroughly if you hadn't have pointed it out! *hugs*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

If you care about equal rights, get off your ass and do something effective about it, as well as living your life by those ideals. If you don't care about equal rights, fuck off

So much better. It's all about doing, not copying and posting pre made ideas.

I just wish the damn meme would fade away.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I think the sentiment behind the meme is good, and I can understand why people re-posted it. But when I read I was struck about how bad the wording was, and I had to speak out.

Don't regret posting this at all Terri.

Thanks, Tara. I'd just hate people to think I was getting at them, when in reality I'm annoyed at what the meme implies.

*hugs*

[soul4poetry.livejournal.com]

No..I totally get what you are saying. I didn't feel that you were getting on anyone at all. *hugs* I've deleted because rewording didn't go well...I think people know by now that I'm all for Gay Rights..and if they don't well sucks to be them. :D

[dryope.livejournal.com]

Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing badly phrased memes re-posted all over the effing place than an actually thought out meaningful post, that, you know, might even force someone who did not support gay right before to think about it?

[mickeym.livejournal.com]

Like you, I get what that meme is trying to convey...but oh, yeah. It really could have (should have) been worded differently. The idea that if I don't post it, I'm not pro-gay rights, is laughable and kind of offensive. I applaud you for speaking your opinion (I put mine in my LJ just now). Like you, I'm all about straddling the fence, but sometimes... well, we're entitled to our opinion(s) as much as the next person :)

And hey, email me, would you? kgasper at comcast dot net. I don't have your email addy here at work. Thanks :)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

The idea that if I don't post it, I'm not pro-gay rights, is laughable and kind of offensive

It really is. Which is annoying as it's taking away from the real message, which is a good one.

Like you, I'm all about straddling the fence, but sometimes... well, we're entitled to our opinion(s) as much as the next person :)

True. But I always worry I'll offend someone or hurt their feelings. Obviously I give myself too much importance *g*

Done :)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

It's all about effort I think. It's easy to copy paste a meme, post it and think that you've done your bit. Actually posting something well thought out, something you deeply believe and have put work into crafting. Then posting to people who need to see that message, not other flist people, the great majority of who will be slashers or slash friendly.

Like I said, too much effort.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_bettina_/]

I saw that this was going around again, but I didn't see that part and yeah, it pisses me off too.

I trust that the people on my friendslist know that I believe in gay rights even without posting this little sentence.

[ephemera.livejournal.com]

you are not alone.

http://sparkindarkness.livejournal.com/134106.html puts it rather well.

[chrismm.livejournal.com]

sometimes that fence gets uncomfortable

*nods* It pokes in delicate places.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

It sure does, then you just have to do something.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Like I said above, the sentiment is good, but the actual wording is horrible.

I trust that the people on my friendslist know that I believe in gay rights even without posting this little sentence.

I'd believe what you've said and done over the years more than a meme any day.

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

Hey, I totally agree with you and I posted it without reading the second part carefully, I just liked the first quote.
As I told someone who ranted about this in my lj, I know all of my flisters care about the issue, whetever they copy-paste text or not. I'm thinking seriously about editing that second part, although I'm not sure how... because you're right, it should not say that -and I don't know about anyone else, but I'm feeling bad at not reading it more carefully.
So don't feel bad at venting, it's a good thing -and you were a lot better wording your anger than some other people.

[msktrnanny.livejournal.com]

I love you. Loff you, even. :hugs:

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I really like the quote too, I just wish the second part had been thought about more.

You've no need to feel bad. You saw an issue you believed in, and showed your support. That can't be a bad thing. It's the person who tainted an important message with that second part who should feel bad, not you.

[geneli4.livejournal.com]

i feel the same way. i wish i saw this before i posted, so i wouldn't have felt so initimidated.... i reworded about a million times and wound up with maybe a dozen "hopefully unoffensive" words, which, wtf? why do i worry about offending people who offend me?

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

Oh, I don't feel bad at posting the quote. I feel bad at not reading carefully. My editor's pride is wounded in that sense. I do agree with the general sentiment of hunting whoever started it and forcing him/her to think his/her words better next time he/she wants to support a cause without hurting it.

[giogio.livejournal.com]

So with you. Also the whole thing sounds a little bit heterocentrist in its making to me, just because, you know, I was face-deep in pussy on Friday night and and it would never even have occured to me that that would require me to post some lame-ass sentence to confirm that who/what I was sleeping with at the time really is a-ok and everybody should be happy about it, and how dare anyone demand that?

Maybe I need to start a meme demanding that everyone confirm that they really, really believe in real love 'til death does them part complete with 2.4 children, as a close approximation of "straight" rights, which, needless to say, we must also support.

/sarcasm

[hegemony.livejournal.com]

I hate the fact that I even had to acknowledge it, because it cropped up in my comms, with tons of friends and with people whom I know but don't even know politely, until I had a good two pages of flist with the same thing over and over again. It was kinda like this one commercial that is playing in the states for a while about medicine for headaches.

head on, apply directly to the forehead
head on, apply directly to the forehead
head on, apply directly to the forehead
and ZOMG, it keeps on fucking going!

And this is just like it.
if you don't like gay rights, ignore this
if you don't like gay rights, ignore this
if you don't like gay rights, ignore this

Uh, NO. and that's the only reason I even addressed it in my journal. I write PORN, GAY porn, so it's pretty damn awkward if I'm against gay SOMETHING.

[chopchica.livejournal.com]

See, I must be coming at it from another angle, because for the first time, this meme made me sit down and think about it.

And after giving it some thought, I realized that actually I don't support gay rights at all and I think all gay people should burn in hell (along with those crazy Jews, abortionists, feminists, and pretty much everybody else). God only knows how much longer I would've lived a life of lies without this meme!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

It was just annoying me so much.

Loff you too!

*smooch*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Your reason for saying something is pretty much the same as mine. The day I posted this I'd read the flist and the damn meme was everywhere. Post after post. Many of which were deleted later. Which on one hand, good, but the other makes me look like I'm over reacting about the amounts. But they were everywhere.

Really, the whole thing just annoyed me.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

The whole meme was just so annoying. Why anyone feels people should copy paste something to show their support I don't know.

Actions count for everything.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Oh man, I so know what you mean.

I hate rocking the boat in any way. I worry that I'll annoy people, but like you said, why should I?

I made this post when I had literally five minutes before going out. Other wise I would have done the re wording thing too. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time, and the amount of posts I delete. Too many to count.