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[turps]

I have a pet peeve, and normally I just bitch in mail, but gah.

When someone posts a picture of Lance, and someone comments on his outfit or the way he's standing, by saying 'And he said he was straight!' Just no! Every single member of Nsync wore outfits as outlandish as Lance did. They had stylists, that's what stylists do, put their clients into clothes designed to be noticed. It wasn't Lance's inner gay seeping through his veneer of straightness. Not unless that was happening to the other four too, and as much as I love my imagined thoughts of group sex orgies between them all, that wasn't happening.

Also. Liking him better now because he's gay? Why?! I don't mean respecting him because he came out. I mean, actually thinking he's better because he's gay. Someone explain that to me, because I don't get it.

Okay, I'm done now, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but it drives me nuts.

Comments

[digital-diva.livejournal.com]

You changed your icon! The other one fit this entry much better! :-p

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I changed it back, just for you *g*

I'm just such a wimp. Expecting to be defriended for saying anything at all. But man, so annoying.

[digital-diva.livejournal.com]

You know what I'm gonna say to that, don'tcha? If you get defriended for something like that, then good riddance :-)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I know exactly what you'd say, and I know it's true.

You're smart and wise and I shall sit and learn at your feet.

[turloughishere.livejournal.com]

I might understand the first thing if it was a picture from a private occasion, but saying it about anything that was in anyway official, be it a photoshoot or a performance or appearing at an awards show, is just nonsense! (Which is what makes me really wonder when Kevin shows up at a party during Backstreet's hiatus in a ruffled shirt and sandals ;-)

The second thing is the one that really irritates me though! It's like they think he's suddenly different just because he's come out! He's exactly the same person he was before! Grrrrr!!!

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Ahahahaha. Let me stop giggling about Kevin before I answer seriously.

I guess, I just think the whole idea of being able to judge sexuality by clothes makes me boggle. I mean, even if Lance was pictured wearing a t-shirt saying Real men take it up the ass I'd be looking out for Joey wearing one too. It could be argued that stereotypes hold a grain of truth somewhere, but Lance as a stereotypical flaming gay guy. I don't see it. And especially don't see it with official pictures which are a whole different ballgame.

It's like they think he's suddenly different just because he's come out! He's exactly the same person he was before! Grrrrr!!!

Exactly! When he first came out I ran across a post of where someone said that they liked Lance so much more now. Because he's gay and being gay makes things so much better. He hadn't changed as a person, how could she like him better? I just don't get it.

[sperrywink]

Where have you been hanging out?!?! Back away slowly and carefully because that is wacky.

[rikes]

Grrr, I know! Besides, even if he had chosen those clothes himself, that still doesn't necessarily mean anything. None of the gay people I know look particularly gay. And when people say they knew he was gay because used to look like a girl when he was 16. WTF? Being girly and gay have little to do with each other I'm afraid. There are no "gay" facial features. (And the same goes for JC, who I never even thought was girly, but you know that's what people say.)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I joined a few comms in order to gather links for the newsletter. One of which makes me want to bash my head against a wall on numerous occasions.

I tend to vent to friends, because no one wants to hear me bitch on here, but man, a few weeks ago Lance wore a white wifebeater and there were squees about how cool it was Lance was gay now so he could wear such a gay outfit.

Just. WTF!?

[turps33.livejournal.com]

It's all so frustrating.

There are no "gay" facial features

Exactly. Looking girlie means nothing. Wearing pink or sequins means nothing. I wish more people would realise that.

[sperrywink]

Oh, it's newsletter related, you poor thing.

A white wifebeater is gay now? Oooohhh, Justin, I think we discovered your secret!

Ahahaha, I assumed they were refering to Lance's curtain-material, button-down shirts! Shows my bias.

[turloughishere.livejournal.com]

I sincerely hope that most of the people making these remarks are very young and have never to their knowledge met anyone who's gay because otherwise I'll just get depressed.

PS I recommend you to stop reading the comments in <lj user="still_gay" - I did and I'm much happier now :-) I'm only a member for the pictures these days.

[strippedhalo.livejournal.com]

Two thumbs up to you, baby. WORD.

[turloughishere.livejournal.com]

Exactly! Not even being a complete crossdresser means anything, there are plenty of straight guys who enjoys dressing up in women's clothes.

The thing about Lance that I thought indicated a strong potential for gayness was his posse of girls. All gay guys I've known have had far more female friends than male which very few straight guys do.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Oooohhh, Justin, I think we discovered your secret!

Yep, if white wifebeaters are an indication of gayness, Justin is as queer as they come.

I assumed they were refering to Lance's curtain-material, button-down shirts!

It's everything! I think I'll keep a tally this Lance month, see how many annoying comments I see attached to picture posts. It'll keep me amused at least.

[ariadnem.livejournal.com]

I'll never get why people can say such stupid things. You're right to be mad, plus, it says a lot of the person who's being so idiotic.

*hugs*

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Me too. More than anything I wish we could enjoy Lance being out with his boyfriends on the same level as we do when we see any of the others out with their SOs or girlfriends.

I guess, I don't see sexuality as something that needs celebrating. It should be just there and unremarkable, be that person gay, straight or whatever.

Making a big deal about clothes is like saying if you're gay everyone dresses a certain way, which isn't true at all.

How did you know which comm I meant? ;)

[turps33.livejournal.com]

It's all so annoying, people are strange sometimes.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it does say a lot. Mainly that they have a very narrow view of thing.

*hugs back* Thanks, honey.

[ephemera.livejournal.com]

actually, transvestites are overwhelmingly straight. There are stats somewhere, although I can't lay hands on them right now.

(butt sex? Also not gay - the proportion of same sex couples and opposite sex couples who partake (I believe self-reported) is about even, slight bias to the het, IIRC)

[carta.livejournal.com]

Liking him better now because he's gay?

Such a pet peeve of mine, omg. I have actually defriended over this, because it is STILL judging someone based on their sexuality first and everything else after, and it is offensive and wrong and pisses me the hell off. The responses I've seen when that's pointed out tend to fall in the line of "tee hee I just love gay boys ::giggle:: it's all about the slash ::giggle::" and I want to smack them.

Using someone's sexuality to put a check mark on one's mental Reasons to Like Him/Her is just as crappy as using it as a Reason Not to Like Him/Her. The person hasn't changed at all from before, nothing is different, and going from "Oh, Actor, he's fine, I like him okay, but nothing. . . what? He's gay? OMG I LOVE HIM EEEEEEEEEEE!" is childish, immature, and I'll say it again, offensive.

Being gay doesn't make someone "better" or "worse" or more worthy of fannish love.

/rant

[turps33.livejournal.com]

I love your rant so very much, and agree with every word.

[pensnest]

Hah - indeed, I think there are quite a few pics in which it is clear that Lance had managed to get on the good side of the wardrobe mistress, while everyone else was, well, in the doghouse.

still_gay is so bizarre. They like what we like, but from 180 degrees away.

[turps33.livejournal.com]

If gayness was based on clothes worn all five of them should have came out years ago.

They like what we like, but from 180 degrees away.

That sums it up perfectly.

[brighton-girl.livejournal.com]

Dude, just based on how they stand, sit or what they wear/wore all 5 of them could be considered gay.

I don't get why people would like him more now, or why they would dislike him more now either!

People are stupid.