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I've just seen the most horrible thing walking home from school. The way the schools are situated a good majority of the secondary and primary students meet around the park/church area of the town. It's always packed at 3.30 and was today. Corey and I were just coming through the church yard and we saw a load of secondary pupils in a huge mob. There were more and more joining in, hanging on the railings to see. In the middle was a young boy getting the crap beat out of him. He only looked about 14, when he was dragged out by someone his face was ruined. They were like animals, there were young children there coming home from nursery and the primary school. One young girl got hit and she was screaming. The police were phoned and luckily the station is only a minute down the road, so the sight of three police cars broke them up.

We were waiting at the bus stop after and some boys were bragging about how they kicked a girl, and others complaining about police harassment, and I just thought, what the hell is wrong with them? The thought of sending Corey to that school frightens me and it's still 4 years away.

I know it's naive but I don't see why anyone has to do things like that.

Date: 2003-10-02 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] castalie.livejournal.com
I know. We hear these kinds of things all the time here, and I just *cannot* understand it either. Kids are turning into dangerous creatures, even more than before, it seems.

Date: 2003-10-02 09:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babycakesin.livejournal.com
at the risk of passing for an old maid, I agree - so much violence these days, and the kids are younger and younger! One great part of this week of vacation is that I don't have to take the tram everyday - believe me, it's nice not to listen to morons who either yell racist comments or try to steal your stuff or... just putting their feet on the seat in front of them is uncivil and really upsets me!

Hope you're okay now :)

Date: 2003-10-02 09:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Well I'll have to be an old main with you then. Like I said to Mouse, no doubt bad things did happen when I was younger, but they seem to be getting worse all the time.

People can be so rude, I hate people that think that the world owes them something so they just take what they want. Like stealing from bags, and curtesy is so easy. Feet belong on the floor, everyone should know that.

I'm fine now though. Thanks hon.

Date: 2003-10-02 09:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] babycakesin.livejournal.com
the other day, I saw an old man telling a kid to take his feet off the seat. The kid and his friends started yelling at him - the other adults in the tram told them to shut up, therefore they did. It's very rare to see people actually standing up to those violent kids, unfortunately.

Date: 2003-10-02 01:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I wish more people would say something, but I also realise that it's hard to speak up when someone is being verbally abusive and shouting.

I'm glad that those people in the tram stood up to that idiot. A victory for those on the side of good for once.

Date: 2003-10-02 09:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I totally agree. I hate when I say things like that because it makes me feel really old, like one of those people that say, things were better when I was young. But at times it just feels like that, even though rationally thinking kids were getting beaten up then, I just didn't see it.

kids can be so cruel. I know they fight, but to gang up on someone to that extent is just excessive.

Date: 2003-10-02 10:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nopseud

How horrible. Were the kids in an identifiable uniform? If so, I'd think about calling the school and telling them what went on. It would be an interesting way of finding out more about the school's response to that kind of behaviour. I know at the school I went to, anyone behaving like that on the way home would be at least suspended. If the school isn't at all interested then, yes, I'd be worried about sending a child there too.

Date: 2003-10-02 03:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Were the kids in an identifiable uniform

They were from my old school, my sister just left there last year so I know exactly who to contact.

I've been thinking tonight and I'm going to phone in the morning because this was nothing more than a lynch mob. The police took names and had witnesses so I'd be interested in how the school responds too.

Date: 2003-10-02 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maubast.livejournal.com
There is a reason I homeschool. When my daughter went to kindergarten (parochial, Lutheran), the other children backed her into a corner, over and over, and teased and mocked her. I was absolutely furious. My daughter is very timid (even though she's much more outgoing now that she's maturing) and shy. If the other children weren't tormenting her because she was different (she had two dads and a mom - we're poly) they were tormenting her because she was 'new' (they had known each other forever because of their church).

Gosh, it makes me mad. Um, sorry for the rant. :)

Date: 2003-10-02 04:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
No need to apolagise for the rant.

Kids can be evil, they say things to deliberately hurt and zero in on any differences. I can see why your daughter was targeted and am glad that you were able to homeschool, but it makes me furious that anyone, not least a young child can be tormented in that way.

I'm glad that you got her out of that situation, but am still pissed that she was in it in the first place.

Date: 2003-10-03 08:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maubast.livejournal.com
What really jerks my chain was that the teacher did nothing to stop it. Grrr.

Date: 2003-10-03 09:06 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
What really jerks my chain was that the teacher did nothing to stop it. Grrr

I'd say that was unbelievable, but sadly I know it happens. You get some great teachers but some are pathetic. They're as bad as the children, only seeing what they want to see.

Date: 2003-10-02 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindas-muse.livejournal.com
You are not naive. I blame the parents. Things like that are wrong and proper upbringing would not have let something like that happen.

If something like that happened at my son's school, we'd find a way to afford private school.

The types of kids that do that are usually either single parent kids, or their parents don't control them at home either.

Don't get me wrong, I know single parents who have done a better job than propter pairs, but if the parents don't provide proper discipline and values, then what you saw is the result.

In my humble opinion. It's terrible you had to see that. But it gives you 4 years to think of other options now that you are fore warned.

Date: 2003-10-03 01:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
I guess that's one positive point, seeing that the school has a problem well before Corey has to enroll there. It gives us time to ask pointed questions and make decisions. My son is the most important person in the world to me and deserves the best and safest education.

I believe that parents have the ultimate authority on children too. When you have a child you take on a huge responsibility, I just wish more people would realise that.

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